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Q: Was Tasker Oddie, who was running for
re-election, Wingfield's man?
ER:
In later years, Tasker Oddie and George Windfield
definitely were political allies. So when Tasker Oddie was in the
Senate in the 20s into the early 30s, they were clearly political
confidants. In 1914 though they have a different relationship. It's
a more distant, more formal relationship. And George Wingfield is
not entirely certain about his own political role as early as 1914.
He slowly moving in to fill the shoes that Nixon's death left. He's
not an opponent of Oddie's but he's not a political ally in the
same way either.
Q:
So was Wingfield a player in 1914?
ER: In 1914, George Wingfield was just
emerging as a player in Nevada politics. He had on the death of
his partner, George Nixon, in 1912 been appointed to the US Senate
seat. He declined the appointment because he felt as he said at
the time at least that he could do more for the state of Nevada
by staying in the state. He saw himself very clearly as the economic
power in Nevada. I think it was less clear to him how intertwined
the political and economic power really were in 1914. By 1915, 16,
17, he's clearly getting the hang of it and he's clearly emerging
as a political force.
Q:
What was Wingfield hoping to gain from his Fallon investments?
ER: George Wingfield always saw himself
-- others never saw him this way -- but he saw himself as a benevolent
capitalist. He thought by going to Fallon he would invest in something
that he knew very well. After all he came from a ranch background.
He knew ranching property. He knew horses, he knew agriculture He
thought he would invest in something he knew well and brings a better
line of stock to the state. He invested heavily in good cattle to
sell to farmers in Fallon. He invested in a beet sugar outfit a
little bit later to try and create a market for sugar beets in Fallon.
He started a dairy, a creamery, to purchase the milk that was produced.
And he really had a sense of himself as fostering an industry out
of Fallon that would be a counterweight to the vagaries of, which
inevitably went down as often as they went up.
Q:
It's Interesting how he sees himself because others
saw him as a corporate octopus.
ER: He clearly is a capitalist
and he's a capitalist on the 1920s model of corporate capitalism.
He has a huge organization. He has lots of people who work for him.
They work for him throughout the state, banks all over the state.
He controls a lot by virtue of investing his money in the state
and he is aware of that. He does that on purpose. And in fact it's
something he's really proud about. He tells people, I am the only
one to remain in the state with my money. Most of the money from
the mines traditionally in Nevada had gone somewhere else. People
who had been fortunate enough to make it had taken it with them.
He made a lot and he stayed in Nevada with it. And he was proud
of that. 00;06;20;20 He did it because he thought he had something
to contribute to the state. And it's clear that he was not the model
of beneficent capitalism that anyone in Nevada would have recognized.
But to himself it was a calling almost. His investments in Fallon
were not primarily about making money. They were about contributing
to the state.
Q:
His Fallon investments were kind of a wash for him.
ER: He certainly didn't make money there.
And it's not that he ever intended to make major money there. But
he'd hoped to encourage, in the same way today that we encourage
diversification in Nevada. He'd hoped in his time to encourage alternative
industries to mining, which pretty much all there was in the state
at the time.
Q:
Is it accurate to say that Nevada was doing well economically in
1914-1917?
ER: It depends upon whom you talk to.
Wingfield, for instance, experienced the first part of the teens
as a bit of a fall off from the glory days in Goldfield when the
Goldfield Consolidated had been making major money. They paid their
biggest dividend, I think in 1912. I'm not absolutely sure about
that. But it's clear for instance that the deposits at Goldfield
were no longer going to sustain much of an industry. It was a low-grade
mine. It was still operating, still had ore, but it was a low-grade
mine. There were no other big prospects in the early 19 teens. There
were places that were mining, weren't finding anything spectacular.
There was a sense of living on borrowed time almost, economically.
Ely was definitely booming. The copper industry in Ely and Eastern
Nevada was definitely booming. So that's not to be confused with
the silver and gold mining. And the war of course, as soon as the
war arrived in Europe, mining fortunes picked up. But in the very
early years, there definitely was a sense, Wingfield for instance,
had relocated from Goldfield. He'd moved out and moved up to Reno
because it was clear that the fortunes of Goldfield were no longer
where the state was going. So there was a sense of needing to find
the next thing. I think that's part of the agricultural investment
in Fallon for Wingfield. It's part of trying to find the next thing.
Q:
Were Boyle and Wingfield allies?
ER: Boyle and Wingfield were not allies
in any sense. They were not acquainted. Anybody who was anybody
in Nevada was acquainted. Not in anyway in collusion with each other
I think in terms of working in the long-term the state they actually
had pretty similar agendas. Each of them felt the need to do so
and sought to do so. To do something, what we now would call economic
diversification.
Q:
How did the war affect Wingfield?
ER: During WWI, Wingfield profited from
it. His mines in Tonopah in particular were operating at full strength
again. Metal prices went up. He made money definitely during the
war. He too like Boyle recognized that with the end of the war.
That it was an artificial boom. That with the end of the war the
prices would decline again. He did everything he could to maximize
his profits during the war. And organized and sold shares in his
Tonopah mine, clearly cognizant of the fact that after the war they
wouldn't be worth as much.
Q:
That was the businessman. How about the man himself?
ER: Wingfield was an extremely reserved
individual privately. Again I think conscious of his checkered past,
a little uncertain of his own social skill he wasn't a man who mixed
with the people. He was never a man of the people. Although often
one on one with individuals he was enormously generous. He helped
a lot of broken down prospectors, people who needed loans. He gave
them money under the guise of a loan never, knowing that it would
never be rapid. He contributed widely charitable causes, the Red
Cross and so forth. And he did contribute during the war such fundraising
efforts. But he was not a man given to patriotic demonstrations.
He was however virulently anti-radical, which is how he would have
described the IWW and the anarcho-syndicalist. So he was very opposed
to any sort of radical labor movement. And there was such a movement
in Tonopah, of course, during the war.
Q:
So was he anti union or just anti radical union?
ER: Wingfield was scared by the Goldfield
strike of 1907. And the movement of the IWW into that strike made
it much more difficult to resolve the issues, at the time. And after
that, ever after that he was extremely suspicious of any organized
labor movement. At the time of the Goldfield strike he was actually
inclined to negotiate in good faith with the Western Federation
of Miners but was entirely disgusted by the program of the IWW.
After that strike he tended to suspect any kind of labor organization
as being some kind of front for the IWW. Increasingly as time went
on he suspicious of all union movements although initially he was
just anti-radical labor.
Q:
Would he have been heavy handed in resolving the Tonopah
Strike?
ER: I suspect that by the time of the
Tonopah strike, it would have very much been his style to crush
it early rather than to let any radical opposition force grow to
the point that it could be strong enough to actually challenge you.
I think he would have wanted to crush it early. He for instance
traditionally employed spies in all of his mining operations. He
employed undercover agents who were actually reporting to him but
their principal duty was to report on the presence of any kind of
radical activity, any kind of union organization that might be going
on, any new man who came along who might be a bit suspicious. All
of that was reported back to the Wingfield organization so that
they could check on it. He circulated among his mine managers lists
of men who were known to be IWW associates who should not be employed,
and if they happen to be on the payroll they should be fired.
Q:
Did Wingfield tie up the loose ends of the Tonopah
strike?
ER: I think it's safe to say, yes. That the terms of negotiation
that Boyle concluded successfully, and everybody went home and said
hooray we resolved it didn't end the problem. Because as I understand
it, the IWW workers -- who were not the full panoply of workers
- but those who affiliated with the IWW refused to honor the terms
that had been negotiated and accepted. And when they continued to
strike, then other miners, other union members wouldn't cross the
picket line. So the strike effectively went on even though all of
the principal players had agreed to terms to end it.
Q:
So by the end of 1919, we have two opposing visions for Nevada's
future. Boyle see one based upon tourism versus Wingfield's based
on gambling.
ER: It's actually a mistake to say toward
divorce. Wingfield was extremely interested in gambling, of a sort,
of a particular sort. He was interested in the pari-mutuel-betting
bill in 1915. And like Boyle he was equally oriented by 1919 towards
tourism, road building. He had by then purchased one substantial
Reno hotel. In the 1920s he'd build what would become the landmark
luxury hotel of Reno, the Riverside. And from the time he started
investing in hotels he began to have an interest in events that
would bring people to Nevada and to Reno in particular. He promoted
road building and he promoted anything he thought would attract
people. And his interest in the pari-mutuel betting Bill of 1915
was really at least as much that it would bring what Wingfield considered
a higher class person, a person with money, to Reno for the horse
meets, for the race meets, than would be the case without the gambling
bill. So he was very interest in the gambling because it was an
instrument of tourism. In addition to being a stimulus for horse
breeding. He was a passionate horse breeder throughout his life.
He had a major thoroughbred stock farm.
Q:
Wingfield had his fingers in a lot of pies. He's seen
as an octopus of sorts.
ER: The octopus image is exactly right.
He had his fingers in everything. He owned hotels. He owned a share
of a business that bid road contracts and did paving. He owned numerous
mines, banks all over the state. Through the banks, he had interests
in ranches and hotels in other areas. So enormously broad economic
interests. And eventually he came to exercise the political power
to protect those interests as well. But he really didn't need the
illicit interests. And his position on gambling and later on prohibition
was always pretty consistent, that they ought to be legal because
people did it anyway. And to have people flaunting the laws by disobeying
them and not have any consequence was worse than just not having
the law. If people were going to break it anyway, why have it.
And I actually
think that that whole suffrage issue is where he becomes as it were
he gains political maturity. Because he does throw a little tantrum
when suffrage is proposed and says, if suffrage passes in this state
I'm taking all my money and leaving. Something he'd been previously
proud of not doing. So he was definitely making a threat. He was
blackmailing the state. And it didn't work and he didn't leave.
And I think from then on, he learned to play in the game he was
in. How to play by the political rules of the place in which he
was living, how to get what he wanted to have happen without having
to have the sort of public embarrassment of threatening to leave.
So I think he became much more astute after the suffrage campaign
than he was before. That's where the 1915 act comes in, when he
decided that having established for himself a thurobred racing stable,
that he wanted to have race meets. He wanted to have people bring
their horses and race against his. And he wanted them to be able
to wager on each other horses. He went about going to the legislature
to get what he wanted. He was actually against the liberalized divorce
bill that was in the 1915 legislature. And he compromised and traded
votes on behalf of divorce in order to get the pari-mutuel-betting
bill, the horseracing bill that he wanted.
Q:
How did George view Anne Martin?
ER: He certainly was an opponent. George
Wingfield never have much use for women in positions of public authority.
He mistrusted the morality that was commonly associated with women,
and which Anne Martin certain personifies. So he wouldn't have been
a supporter under any circumstances. I actually don't think he had
to do much mobilizing. I don't think there was enough of a chance
in predominantly male world and largely immigrant world of Nevada
that Anne Martin really would have represented a threat. So I couldn't
say he mobilized against her, but he clearly opposed her and that
would have been enough for some people.
Q:
So he opposed women's suffrage?
ER: My suspicion is that the suffrage
campaign would have attracted a lot of support from people who thought
that women would have a good influence, an uplifting, a morally
beneficent influence on Nevada, which heaven knows could have used
it. So there was a lot of sympathy for a suffrage campaign and in
particular about the economic and political issues in which women
needed to protect themselves, abusive husbands, and alcoholism and
so forth. There would have been considerable sympathy for that,
that would not have accrued to an individual woman running for public
office. And Anne Martin was an individual woman running for public
office on a very public platform of considerable change in the state.
A lot of people in Nevada didn't want to see considerable change
in the state, of whom George Wingfield was certainly one.
So that women
who campaigned for suffrage were widely thought to be the engine
for a number of moral reforms, that they'd long been campaigning
for. Prohibition is one of them but not the only one. But prohibition
would have been a threat to George Wingfield, himself a heavy drinker
throughout his life. A man who had once owned a saloon man. A man
who all of whose socializing went on around drinking. So prohibition
in particular would have been seen as a kind of insult to the way
of life in Nevada. But also it's clear that women didn't approve
of the racetrack and the slightly illicit activities that went on,
that were involved in betting at the races. Women would no have
doubt suppressed the vice activities of his friends, Graham and
McKay. And they were the ones running the prostitution rings and
illegal gambling and so forth. Even if Wingfield wasn't making money
off of it, they were his friends and he approved of that social
world. His was the social world of the saloon. And that's what women
were perceived to be threatening at the time of the suffrage campaign.
It was a Homo-social
world. It was a world of men who mostly came to know each other
apart from families. It's not that they didn't have families, but
they socialized apart from families. They socialized in rough mining
camps, often in saloons. They had a kind of common rough background
experience that they prized. It was their view and women inhabited
a truly sphere from them. And they were all happily or less happily
married, and had families. It's not that they disapproved of that,
but they feared the threat to that world that the reformers such
as Anne Martin represented.
Q:
So how would you sum up Nevada in 1919?
ER: Anne Martin wrote an article in 1922
called Nevada, Beautiful Desert of Buried Hope. And I think she's
right. That in 1922 looking back on it, something had changed. A
moment had been lost. And the possibility for the vision that she
was promoting of agricultural families, ranching families, or farming
families, settled across the landscape, in a kind of economic and
social structure that more resembled eastern states, that was over.
And that was not a vision that George Wingfield necessarily opposed,
but it was not one that he was as, it was not one so clearly in
the forefront of his economic program as it was for her. So I actually
think that Nevada, at that time, was poised to become what it has
become, the tourist mecca with an economy based on legalized vices
of various sorts. But no one really fully understood that the time,
of course. At the time they were just living through a time of chaos
and trying to find the next thing. But it was in retrospect a time
of tremendous transition.
Q:
On the impact of the influenza epidemic.
ER: Well, in American cultural history,
generally of course, the 1920s are stereotypically the jazz age,
the time of wild abandon and self indulgence after the Progressive
Era of the 19-teens. So there something clearly that happens, something
changes for people around the time of WWI. And partly it's the impact,
the horror of the huge sacrifice and the terrible casualty rates
of that war. But it's also the aftermath of the war and the fact
that influenza sweeps down and it can't be controlled and it kills
an inordinent number of people and kills them very quickly. No one
knows how it's spread, people are fearful. And there seems to be
just a terrible response as you might expect to this general loss
of, a sense of a world that one knew and could function in, a world
that one could controlled to some degree. Everything seemed out
of control after the war. |